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	<title>Comments on: How&#039;s This For a Christmas Reading List?</title>
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		<title>By: Danny Kopping</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Kopping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tyler Thanks man. Phantoms in the Brain looks utterly fascinating and V.S. Ramachandran is such a legend.

@Justin Hey Justin. I partially accept the rebuke... Sure, in the broader strokes, my list lacks variety but this is not my first reading list ever :) i&#039;ve read (in part or in full) most of the religious texts as well as their proponents&#039; viewpoints. A blog reply thread is no place for a religious debate, but suffice it to say that I spent a long time on the fence and once the evidence and philosophy amassed on the side of Atheism and Deism, I followed it.

I&#039;m a very intellectually inquisitive person, and i&#039;ve been reading books of this ilk for about 6 years now (i&#039;ll be 21 in January so i haven&#039;t had enough lifespan for an impressive length of study). My list is actually incredibly varied if you&#039;re familiar with the overall gestalt. Sure, they may all be written by Atheists, but not all the books are anti-religious... Dennett is a distinguished Philosopher and Cognitive Neuroscientist, Ray Kurzweil is a prognosticating genius and technology boff, Michael Shermer is very even-handed (and some may even say &quot;sanguine&quot;) with religion whereas Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens are most certainly not - but even Harris and Hitchens are vastly different in their modes of argument, linguistic style and tone.

I could have included books like The Book of Mormon in my list, but i find it only interesting insofar as i find a baby trying to babble its first words. C.S. Lewis had his moments, and we can debate him further, but thanks for your comment :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tyler Thanks man. Phantoms in the Brain looks utterly fascinating and V.S. Ramachandran is such a legend.</p>
<p>@Justin Hey Justin. I partially accept the rebuke&#8230; Sure, in the broader strokes, my list lacks variety but this is not my first reading list ever <img src='http://ria-coder.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  i&#8217;ve read (in part or in full) most of the religious texts as well as their proponents&#8217; viewpoints. A blog reply thread is no place for a religious debate, but suffice it to say that I spent a long time on the fence and once the evidence and philosophy amassed on the side of Atheism and Deism, I followed it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a very intellectually inquisitive person, and i&#8217;ve been reading books of this ilk for about 6 years now (i&#8217;ll be 21 in January so i haven&#8217;t had enough lifespan for an impressive length of study). My list is actually incredibly varied if you&#8217;re familiar with the overall gestalt. Sure, they may all be written by Atheists, but not all the books are anti-religious&#8230; Dennett is a distinguished Philosopher and Cognitive Neuroscientist, Ray Kurzweil is a prognosticating genius and technology boff, Michael Shermer is very even-handed (and some may even say &#8220;sanguine&#8221;) with religion whereas Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens are most certainly not &#8211; but even Harris and Hitchens are vastly different in their modes of argument, linguistic style and tone.</p>
<p>I could have included books like The Book of Mormon in my list, but i find it only interesting insofar as i find a baby trying to babble its first words. C.S. Lewis had his moments, and we can debate him further, but thanks for your comment <img src='http://ria-coder.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justin James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting list. Lacks variety, though. One of the things that I&#039;ve learned in life is that if the only things you read are those which you know you agree with in advance, it&#039;s possible to just be reinforcing erroneous beliefs. I&#039;m not saying I disagree with your standpoint, but at the same time, I found a lot of value from reading the Bible, for example, if only to get a better understanding of the way others think and get background on a lot of shared cultural items that I missed out on growing up. Likewise, I enjoyed the Bhagavita and the Tao Te Ching.

I got partially through the Book of Mormon, and I found a lot of interesitng things in it, like how it starts in 600 BC, but holds a view of God that not only does not appear in the Old Testament or even the New Testament, it&#039;s view of God and religion is extraordinarily modern. I beleive that this is proof that it is not an authentic document, but the Mormons I&#039;ve talked this over with say that it is the very nature of the prophesy of the book.

C.S. Lewis provides an excellent alternative viewpoint on the matter, I may add. There is a collection of his writings (I forget the name offhand) which is a first rate collection of logical, frank discussions on the matter from the standpoint of a beleiver which does not rely upon sophistry or syntax games to make a point. &quot;Conciousness Explained&quot; is excellent. I gave away my copy ages ago, but I picked up another at a used book store for pennies.

J.Ja</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting list. Lacks variety, though. One of the things that I&#8217;ve learned in life is that if the only things you read are those which you know you agree with in advance, it&#8217;s possible to just be reinforcing erroneous beliefs. I&#8217;m not saying I disagree with your standpoint, but at the same time, I found a lot of value from reading the Bible, for example, if only to get a better understanding of the way others think and get background on a lot of shared cultural items that I missed out on growing up. Likewise, I enjoyed the Bhagavita and the Tao Te Ching.</p>
<p>I got partially through the Book of Mormon, and I found a lot of interesitng things in it, like how it starts in 600 BC, but holds a view of God that not only does not appear in the Old Testament or even the New Testament, it&#8217;s view of God and religion is extraordinarily modern. I beleive that this is proof that it is not an authentic document, but the Mormons I&#8217;ve talked this over with say that it is the very nature of the prophesy of the book.</p>
<p>C.S. Lewis provides an excellent alternative viewpoint on the matter, I may add. There is a collection of his writings (I forget the name offhand) which is a first rate collection of logical, frank discussions on the matter from the standpoint of a beleiver which does not rely upon sophistry or syntax games to make a point. &#8220;Conciousness Explained&#8221; is excellent. I gave away my copy ages ago, but I picked up another at a used book store for pennies.</p>
<p>J.Ja</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Chesley</title>
		<link>http://ria-coder.com/blog/hows-this-for-a-christmas-reading-list#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Chesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice reading list. Looks like you have about the same religious beliefs as I do! That is to say, NONE! I really enjoyed Breaking the Spell. Let me know how you like Phantoms in the Brain.

Cheers,
Tyler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice reading list. Looks like you have about the same religious beliefs as I do! That is to say, NONE! I really enjoyed Breaking the Spell. Let me know how you like Phantoms in the Brain.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Tyler</p>
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